I never heard any song of Britney Spears. ^^'
What kind of music does she sing ?
What kind of music does she sing ?
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Message édité le 26/10/2007 à 21:09.
Something that sounds like pop-music...I guess ^^"
"Oooops I did it agaaaaain !"
Are you sure you've never heard that before ?
"Oooops I did it agaaaaain !"
Are you sure you've never heard that before ?
Tell me, why, when you're speaking (or actually try speaking) (or rather writing, de facto) english, you're speaking very well, while aside you don't know how to spell french correctly?
Who are you talking to ? O_o
Klarth a dit
Tell me, why, when you're speaking (or actually try speaking) (or rather writing, de facto) english, you're speaking very well, while aside you don't know how to spell french correctly?
'cause French langage is more difficult than English langage ?
Not bad, don't you ?
Not bad, don't you ?
Because we learn to speak French before writing it, whereas when we learn English we mainly write it.
English spelling is difficult; English-speaking young people may have trouble to write correctly, while we often do not know how to pronounce a word we can spell.
English spelling is difficult; English-speaking young people may have trouble to write correctly, while we often do not know how to pronounce a word we can spell.
Message édité le 26/10/2007 à 22:05.
I think I write better French than English. But I find speaking English is very difficult - it maybe is because I near never practice it.
Not bad interpretation, Mut. Buf if we can write English correctly, i don't know why we can't do the same in French? OR rather speak English like French, with all its mistakes.
Do u undstk wut i meen ? spk'n englich lik tat "were is bryan? bryan is in da kitshenn"
Do u undstk wut i meen ? spk'n englich lik tat "were is bryan? bryan is in da kitshenn"
Milo, a friend told me that when you are in a foreign country which english is the main language, you learn very quickly the language, but it don't mean that you won't make deadly mistakes anymore. So spendign time in England or whatever won't help you to get TOEIC for example.
I know it sounds unbelievable, but people who can both speak and write French and English properly DO exist. And I don't think the main mistakes we make when writting English are spelling ones, it is rather a grammar problem which usually comes from a bad or a lack of learning at the begining of secondary school . 
But everyone is different, maybe some just dislike the language and so they somehow give up.
But everyone is different, maybe some just dislike the language and so they somehow give up.
I know it sounds unbelievable, but people who can both speak and write French and English properly DO exist. > Yes, and they're often called English teachers or bilingual people. ;(
Because have the English accent should be very difficult.
Because have the English accent should be very difficult.
I think that accent comes with age, but you're supposed to live in the country, particularly the region where the accent come from, for a long time. But even with it, you cannot still have two different accents.
That's why my english tchr, who is a natural english speaker, not like my high school teacher was, has a really englishish french when she's talking to us, that's quite funny. Ü
That's why my english tchr, who is a natural english speaker, not like my high school teacher was, has a really englishish french when she's talking to us, that's quite funny. Ü
Message édité le 27/10/2007 à 01:39.
Milocéane <> english accent is something invented by english teachers to try to get you to speak their way, but there's actually no english accent really, like, I'm bilingual and my accent is kind of a mix between american and british accent *don't ask why, I don't even know*
and the reason why people here write in english better than they do in french is because you're more careful when it's not your native language, something I've noticed a while ago, foreigners always speak french better than french people, and that's a fact xD because french people think they master this language, since it's their mother tongue, so they think they can twist it the way they want, whereas a foreigner always feels judged and feels as if he or she had to speak perfectly ^^
and the reason why people here write in english better than they do in french is because you're more careful when it's not your native language, something I've noticed a while ago, foreigners always speak french better than french people, and that's a fact xD because french people think they master this language, since it's their mother tongue, so they think they can twist it the way they want, whereas a foreigner always feels judged and feels as if he or she had to speak perfectly ^^
This is a weird thing, I've always been told not to mix accents, so I chose British, of course. It's much more elegant than this ugly American "vocal gelly".
I'm unable to recognize accents. 
dsch ~> That's maybe right in theory, but in reality I'm convinced that native people always speak better, or at least in an equal way, than foreigners. When you say "they think they can twist it the way they want" who are you speaking about ? Only teenagers and some adults on the web for example, but if you take a politic man or a journalist or even a teacher, all of them are speaking French quite properly. It always depends on the kind of people you choose.
And even if strangers try to speak perfectly, they always keep on making some mistakes for a couple of years, even it they're small, because languages like French or Spanish are very difficult compared to English. (with all the stupid things like genders and so on -_-" )
I sometimes hear that English speakers are lazy when it comes to learn foreign languages, because everyone always know at least a few English words so they can communicate anyway, maybe they just wonder "why bother ?"
Getting the English accent is maily in the intonation, as you know the french one is very monotonous whereas the English one in all the contrary. There is also the prononciation, but I don't think a French person who would say a sentence with a perfect syntax and prononciation but a French intonation would be properly understood by a native English speaker.
Was anyone able to read my whole post ??
And even if strangers try to speak perfectly, they always keep on making some mistakes for a couple of years, even it they're small, because languages like French or Spanish are very difficult compared to English. (with all the stupid things like genders and so on -_-" )
I sometimes hear that English speakers are lazy when it comes to learn foreign languages, because everyone always know at least a few English words so they can communicate anyway, maybe they just wonder "why bother ?"
Getting the English accent is maily in the intonation, as you know the french one is very monotonous whereas the English one in all the contrary. There is also the prononciation, but I don't think a French person who would say a sentence with a perfect syntax and prononciation but a French intonation would be properly understood by a native English speaker.
Was anyone able to read my whole post ??
kasumi16 a écrit : but if you take a politic man or a journalist or even a teacher, all of them are speaking French quite properly. |
It depends. Some journalists, politicians or corporate managers often invent stupid and useless words (in French at least). "Bojor on va solutionner les problématiques client :-PPPPPP"
Message édité le 27/10/2007 à 16:30.
*when I talk about twisting the language I'm talking about french people*
but no, I mean, the way foreigners speak french is better because they've been told saying "ils croivent" or that kind or stuff wasn't correct so they don't say it, plenty of people make so many grammatical etc mistakes just because they think it's their language so they speak better,as Mut said plenty of french people invent useless expressions everyday...
see, that's the perfect illustration of what I said.
When I learn a language I always try to speak it as if it was my native language, I don't think in french in my head or in english, just try to think in the language I'm speaking, keeps me from mixing with other languages
*but I keep saying stuff like "experiencer, afforder etc in french xD*
that's your point of view, not everyone speaks the same way in america, what people call american accent is the accent from New York city that's all, it's like Paris' accent, people are always stressed up and stuff so they almost spit their words out as if they where in a hurry
but no, I mean, the way foreigners speak french is better because they've been told saying "ils croivent" or that kind or stuff wasn't correct so they don't say it, plenty of people make so many grammatical etc mistakes just because they think it's their language so they speak better,as Mut said plenty of french people invent useless expressions everyday...
Citation: I've always been told not to mix accents, so I chose British |
see, that's the perfect illustration of what I said.
When I learn a language I always try to speak it as if it was my native language, I don't think in french in my head or in english, just try to think in the language I'm speaking, keeps me from mixing with other languages
*but I keep saying stuff like "experiencer, afforder etc in french xD*
Citation: It's much more elegant than this ugly American "vocal gelly". |
that's your point of view, not everyone speaks the same way in america, what people call american accent is the accent from New York city that's all, it's like Paris' accent, people are always stressed up and stuff so they almost spit their words out as if they where in a hurry
Mut > In English it would be "recognise", dear.
dsch > In America, people ALL pronounce "r"s in words or a the end of them.*
Let's take the example of butter.
Brit : Battah
US : Beudeu"www"
dsch > In America, people ALL pronounce "r"s in words or a the end of them.*
Let's take the example of butter.
Brit : Battah
US : Beudeu"www"
Ah, -ise is English and -ize is American, I forgot...
American.
Why the fuck don't they have a word for "citizen of the United States"? United States are not America.
American.
Why the fuck don't they have a word for "citizen of the United States"? United States are not America.
